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Thanks to all who helped me on that milling macro.
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vinny
2014-12-04 10:30:48 UTC
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SERIOUSLY...THANKS!!!


I finally got to impliment the program, and it was a beautiful thing to
watch.
It reached in the nc file, and ran one tool at a time thru 8 positions.
9 tool changes as opposed to 72. With the added ability to run any tool at
will thru any positions.
And its freakishly simple.

but....(lol there's always a butt!)

When it got up around tool 5 it really started to choke having to search
thru the program each time it went to a new position.
Lots of 3d code, 10 year old makinos, too much for it.
By the time it got to tool 9 it took over 4 minutes to search each time for
each position.
A second butt, the macro would not search across the harddrive on the mill.
I was forced to load the program in memory first.

Not what I wanted, but it still can be useful to the right person.
Where I work they bought a small horizontal that has tombstones lined up
like a civil war graveyard.
They have vices mounted all over that thing.
The work they are doing is mostly pre heat treat. Loading up 30 vices, and
doing 2d milling.
Here's the sad part...say one program mills, drills, chamfers, engraves,
etc...each identical part, 30 of them.
Not uncommon to have 12-15 tools, especially when drilling, might be 4-5
different sized holes that get relieved, chamfered,
etc... Maybe over 20 tools.
Now do the math..30 positions, 20 tools. 600 tool changes!
Its all the thing does is change tools.
This proggy would kick ass for this, small lightweight programs, quick to
search thru, new fast controller.
Currently the programmers are posting out individual tools, and the operator
is typing in forever picking up these programs.
(yes, if you listen real hard you can hear cicus music)

again to all who helped, thx/ that was a fun little project.
F. George McDuffee
2014-12-04 16:04:58 UTC
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Post by vinny
SERIOUSLY...THANKS!!!
I finally got to impliment the program, and it was a beautiful thing to
watch.
It reached in the nc file, and ran one tool at a time thru 8 positions.
9 tool changes as opposed to 72. With the added ability to run any tool at
will thru any positions.
And its freakishly simple.
but....(lol there's always a butt!)
When it got up around tool 5 it really started to choke having to search
thru the program each time it went to a new position.
Lots of 3d code, 10 year old makinos, too much for it.
By the time it got to tool 9 it took over 4 minutes to search each time for
each position.
A second butt, the macro would not search across the harddrive on the mill.
I was forced to load the program in memory first.
Not what I wanted, but it still can be useful to the right person.
Where I work they bought a small horizontal that has tombstones lined up
like a civil war graveyard.
They have vices mounted all over that thing.
The work they are doing is mostly pre heat treat. Loading up 30 vices, and
doing 2d milling.
Here's the sad part...say one program mills, drills, chamfers, engraves,
etc...each identical part, 30 of them.
Not uncommon to have 12-15 tools, especially when drilling, might be 4-5
different sized holes that get relieved, chamfered,
etc... Maybe over 20 tools.
Now do the math..30 positions, 20 tools. 600 tool changes!
Its all the thing does is change tools.
This proggy would kick ass for this, small lightweight programs, quick to
search thru, new fast controller.
Currently the programmers are posting out individual tools, and the operator
is typing in forever picking up these programs.
(yes, if you listen real hard you can hear cicus music)
again to all who helped, thx/ that was a fun little project.
Thanks for the feed-back. Good to hear the successful
outcome.

This looks like a real opportunity for a useful/profitable
commercial program, and one that should have been developed
some time ago, given the proliferation of "lights out"
manufacturing with multiple work pieces.

Does anyone know if there is an "open source" community
wizard programmers for CNC programming that could develop
and expand this concept of post-post processor optimization,
working off the g code?
--
Unka' George

"Gold is the money of kings,
silver is the money of gentlemen,
barter is the money of peasants,
but debt is the money of slaves"

-Norm Franz, "Money and Wealth in the New Millenium"
Just Me
2014-12-04 16:19:57 UTC
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Cool, lets see the code.
If it's taking an unreasonable amount of time searching then maybe
one of us here can help optimize it.
Dinh
2014-12-04 19:58:35 UTC
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Post by Just Me
Cool, lets see the code.
If it's taking an unreasonable amount of time searching then maybe
one of us here can help optimize it.
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DanP
2014-12-04 23:02:24 UTC
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Can you upload that file somewhere?


DanP
F. George McDuffee
2014-12-05 00:18:25 UTC
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On Thu, 4 Dec 2014 15:02:24 -0800 (PST), DanP
Post by DanP
Can you upload that file somewhere?
DanP
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Venny:

If it would help, send me the file as an email attachment
and I will post it to my website for easy download. If it
is large I can "zip" it to minimize transmission time.
--
Unka' George

"Gold is the money of kings,
silver is the money of gentlemen,
barter is the money of peasants,
but debt is the money of slaves"

-Norm Franz, "Money and Wealth in the New Millenium"
vinny
2014-12-05 11:06:31 UTC
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Post by F. George McDuffee
On Thu, 4 Dec 2014 15:02:24 -0800 (PST), DanP
Post by DanP
Can you upload that file somewhere?
DanP
=================
If it would help, send me the file as an email attachment
and I will post it to my website for easy download. If it
is large I can "zip" it to minimize transmission time.
--
Unka' George
its little, just a macro. 20 lines tops.
ill post it this weekend.
havnt tried it on the newer machine that runs windows yet. Maybe i can do
something using windows to speed up the search.
vinny
2014-12-05 11:06:31 UTC
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Post by F. George McDuffee
On Thu, 4 Dec 2014 15:02:24 -0800 (PST), DanP
Post by DanP
Can you upload that file somewhere?
DanP
=================
If it would help, send me the file as an email attachment
and I will post it to my website for easy download. If it
is large I can "zip" it to minimize transmission time.
--
Unka' George
its little, just a macro. 20 lines tops.
ill post it this weekend.
havnt tried it on the newer machine that runs windows yet. Maybe i can do
something using windows to speed up the search.

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