Help with Matsuura v710 w/ Yasnac 2000G control

[samurai]

I've got the task of setting up an old Matsuura V710 milling machine
with a 2000G and 14" CRT (circa 1981), and have a couple questions.
Sorry, no manual, so that's why I'm asking here.

1) Setting work offset B
I can set the first work offset by finding the X, Y and Z
coordinates, then pressing ORG for each axis.
But how do I set Offset B??? On the screen page, it looks something
like this:
Offset B G49 X .0 H00
G49 Y .0 H00
G49 Z .0 H00
G49 A .0 H00
I have no idea what keys to press to set values in here, and no idea
how to call it in a program. Can anyone help?? How does G49 work??

2) What are the Z Axis lockout switch, MST lock, and Manual ABS
switches??

3) can the control handle comments, like some fanucs that can read
into the machine comments, but have no way of inserting a comment?

Nothing too complicated, drill and tap, maybe thread milling, and
pocket milling, and plain steel and some stainless.

Thanks,
samurai

[ff]

Post by samurai
I've got the task of setting up an old Matsuura V710 milling machine
with a 2000G and 14" CRT (circa 1981), and have a couple questions.
Sorry, no manual, so that's why I'm asking here.
1) Setting work offset B
I can set the first work offset by finding the X, Y and Z
coordinates, then pressing ORG for each axis.
But how do I set Offset B??? On the screen page, it looks something
Offset B G49 X .0 H00
G49 Y .0 H00
G49 Z .0 H00
G49 A .0 H00
I have no idea what keys to press to set values in here, and no idea
how to call it in a program. Can anyone help?? How does G49 work??
2) What are the Z Axis lockout switch, MST lock, and Manual ABS
switches??
3) can the control handle comments, like some fanucs that can read
into the machine comments, but have no way of inserting a comment?
Nothing too complicated, drill and tap, maybe thread milling, and
pocket milling, and plain steel and some stainless.
Thanks,
samurai

The Z axis lockout and MST lock are used for dry running a program.
Z axis lockout ignores all z moves so the tool stays above the workpiece.
MST lock suppresses M codes, spindle speeds and tool changes. So
basically all
that happens when dry running is the X and Y movement.

You can download manuals in pdf format here:

http://tinyurl.com/moy5w

[samurai]

Post by ff

Post by samurai
I've got the task of setting up an old Matsuura V710 milling machine
with a 2000G and 14" CRT (circa 1981), and have a couple questions.
Sorry, no manual, so that's why I'm asking here.
1) Setting work offset B
I can set the first work offset by finding the X, Y and Z
coordinates, then pressing ORG for each axis.
But how do I set Offset B??? On the screen page, it looks something
Offset B G49 X .0 H00
G49 Y .0 H00
G49 Z .0 H00
G49 A .0 H00
I have no idea what keys to press to set values in here, and no idea
how to call it in a program. Can anyone help?? How does G49 work??
2) What are the Z Axis lockout switch, MST lock, and Manual ABS
switches??
3) can the control handle comments, like some fanucs that can read
into the machine comments, but have no way of inserting a comment?
Nothing too complicated, drill and tap, maybe thread milling, and
pocket milling, and plain steel and some stainless.
Thanks,
samurai

The Z axis lockout and MST lock are used for dry running a program.
Z axis lockout ignores all z moves so the tool stays above the workpiece.
MST lock suppresses M codes, spindle speeds and tool changes. So
basically all
that happens when dry running is the X and Y movement.
http://tinyurl.com/moy5w

I got these manuals, thanks for the link though.
But now I've got a couple other questions:

1) how do I enter a diameter offset?? There are 100 H values for
length offset, but no where am I able to enter a D value. I followed
the instructions in the .pdf manuals, but I don't get the same result,
it won't allow me to enter a D value anywhere, and there are no pages
with D values.

2) When locating the workpiece, where do I enter the value of the
machine coordinates, and then how do I call it up in the program, like
a G54 on fanuc controls?? If I zero the coordinates of the workpiece
using the ORG button, then power off the machine, the workpiece
center is lost on power up.

3) Whenever I enter the tool length offset, it always enters as an
incremental value. How i enter the value absolute?

4) is H00 always blank, or can I enter a value in that?

Thanks, really appreciate the help. I can't find anyone locally to
program this unit.

samurai.

[CNC Solutions]

Post by samurai

Post by samurai
I've got the task of setting up an old Matsuura V710 milling machine
with a 2000G and 14" CRT (circa 1981), and have a couple questions.
Sorry, no manual, so that's why I'm asking here.
1) Setting work offset B
I can set the first work offset by finding the X, Y and Z
coordinates, then pressing ORG for each axis.
But how do I set Offset B??? On the screen page, it looks something
Offset B G49 X .0 H00
G49 Y .0 H00
G49 Z .0 H00
G49 A .0 H00
I have no idea what keys to press to set values in here, and no idea
how to call it in a program. Can anyone help?? How does G49 work??

1) how do I enter a diameter offset?? There are 100 H values for
length offset, but no where am I able to enter a D value. I followed
the instructions in the .pdf manuals, but I don't get the same result,
it won't allow me to enter a D value anywhere, and there are no pages
with D values.

Use offset H01 for tool length and H51 for dia (it may be a radius value,
check it). In your program use "D51"

Post by samurai
2) When locating the workpiece, where do I enter the value of the
machine coordinates, and then how do I call it up in the program, like
a G54 on fanuc controls?? If I zero the coordinates of the workpiece
using the ORG button, then power off the machine, the workpiece
center is lost on power up.

Most of the programs I've seen the machine starts at Machine home then moves
to the workpiece and a "G50" sets X0 Y0. Locate your vises or chucks from
machine zero and input these values into the programs.

Post by samurai
3) Whenever I enter the tool length offset, it always enters as an
incremental value. How i enter the value absolute?

W is incremental, Z is absolute the manual says for inputting tool offsets

Post by samurai
4) is H00 always blank, or can I enter a value in that?

H00 is used to cancel tool length offsets I believe. It should stay zero.

Post by samurai
Thanks, really appreciate the help. I can't find anyone locally to
program this unit.
samurai.

That machine is older than my wife. Wayne may be asking a lot from it if he
plans on threadmilling on it.
Darcy

[samurai]

On Sun, 02 Apr 2006 13:58:55 GMT, "CNC Solutions"

Post by CNC Solutions

Post by samurai

Post by samurai
I've got the task of setting up an old Matsuura V710 milling machine
with a 2000G and 14" CRT (circa 1981), and have a couple questions.
Sorry, no manual, so that's why I'm asking here.
1) Setting work offset B
I can set the first work offset by finding the X, Y and Z
coordinates, then pressing ORG for each axis.
But how do I set Offset B??? On the screen page, it looks something
Offset B G49 X .0 H00
G49 Y .0 H00
G49 Z .0 H00
G49 A .0 H00
I have no idea what keys to press to set values in here, and no idea
how to call it in a program. Can anyone help?? How does G49 work??

1) how do I enter a diameter offset?? There are 100 H values for
length offset, but no where am I able to enter a D value. I followed
the instructions in the .pdf manuals, but I don't get the same result,
it won't allow me to enter a D value anywhere, and there are no pages
with D values.

Use offset H01 for tool length and H51 for dia (it may be a radius value,
check it). In your program use "D51"

Post by samurai
2) When locating the workpiece, where do I enter the value of the
machine coordinates, and then how do I call it up in the program, like
a G54 on fanuc controls?? If I zero the coordinates of the workpiece
using the ORG button, then power off the machine, the workpiece
center is lost on power up.

Most of the programs I've seen the machine starts at Machine home then moves
to the workpiece and a "G50" sets X0 Y0. Locate your vises or chucks from
machine zero and input these values into the programs.

Post by samurai
3) Whenever I enter the tool length offset, it always enters as an
incremental value. How i enter the value absolute?

W is incremental, Z is absolute the manual says for inputting tool offsets

Post by samurai
4) is H00 always blank, or can I enter a value in that?

H00 is used to cancel tool length offsets I believe. It should stay zero.

Post by samurai
Thanks, really appreciate the help. I can't find anyone locally to
program this unit.
samurai.

That machine is older than my wife. Wayne may be asking a lot from it if he
plans on threadmilling on it.
Darcy

I think I have to use G92 to program the center of the part at the
very start of the program:
G00 G40 G80 G90
G28 G91 Z0
T01 M06
G28 X0 Y0
G0 G90 X10.375 Y6.75 (these are the machine coordinates
of center of the part from home pos.)
G92 X0 Y0 (sets zero point for rest of program)
G43 Z2. H01 M03 S1000

[PART PROGRAM]

G91 G28 Z0 M09
M05
M01

I won't use a G92 Z0, since I can use height offsetts.

Thanks for the other tips.
Why couldn't threadmilling be done on this machine??

BTW, Wayne or Martin wouldn't allow such a machine on the floor.

samurai.

[CNC Solutions]

Post by samurai
Why couldn't threadmilling be done on this machine??
samurai.

I would check if the machine can cut a true circle and if it can process
data fast enough not to dwell waiting for data.Check backlash and tram the
spindle to the table. Did they move the big pedestal grinder away from the
electrical cabinet?
It may threadmill ok but I would have the thread checked if the are going to
use it for any pressure type applications. Life safety reasons apply here.
BTW, Do you know why the fire and rescue were at Vector last Saturday?
Darcy

[SXMWendell]

Download a manual at
http://www.yaskawa.com/site/dmcontrol.nsf/Productline.html?readform

Wendell

Newssor Inc.

Post by samurai
I've got the task of setting up an old Matsuura V710 milling machine
with a 2000G and 14" CRT (circa 1981), and have a couple questions.
Sorry, no manual, so that's why I'm asking here.
1) Setting work offset B
I can set the first work offset by finding the X, Y and Z
coordinates, then pressing ORG for each axis.
But how do I set Offset B??? On the screen page, it looks something
Offset B G49 X .0 H00
G49 Y .0 H00
G49 Z .0 H00
G49 A .0 H00
I have no idea what keys to press to set values in here, and no idea
how to call it in a program. Can anyone help?? How does G49 work??
2) What are the Z Axis lockout switch, MST lock, and Manual ABS
switches??
3) can the control handle comments, like some fanucs that can read
into the machine comments, but have no way of inserting a comment?
Nothing too complicated, drill and tap, maybe thread milling, and
pocket milling, and plain steel and some stainless.
Thanks,
samurai