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Featurecam Is The Fastest Program I've Ever Used For Creating CAM Programs
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jon_banquer
2013-11-13 00:06:29 UTC
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Feature based programming blows the doors of Process based CAM programming for many parts.

In the last two years Delcam has added PowerMill's toolpaths to Featurecam making it one incredibly powerful program.

With some CAD improvements and some user interface improvements, Featurecam can easily be the dominant player for machining job shops in the USA. It’s further along than almost every other CAM product in this regard and Autodesk marketing can really crank up sales at a much faster rate than Delcam was.

More details as well as an extended discussion of the Autodesk purchase of Delcam can be found on the LinkedIn group: CADCAM Technology Leaders.
vinny
2013-11-13 11:07:22 UTC
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"jon_banquer" <***@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3d94c80c-2e9b-4df2-9088-***@googlegroups.com...
Feature based programming blows the doors of Process based CAM programming
for many parts.

In the last two years Delcam has added PowerMill's toolpaths to Featurecam
making it one incredibly powerful program.

With some CAD improvements and some user interface improvements, Featurecam
can easily be the dominant player for machining job shops in the USA. It’s
further along than almost every other CAM product in this regard and
Autodesk marketing can really crank up sales at a much faster rate than
Delcam was.

More details as well as an extended discussion of the Autodesk purchase of
Delcam can be found on the LinkedIn group: CADCAM Technology Leaders.

*******
Feature recognition is as good as its rules relative to the simplicity of
the part.
As the rules get better, more complex, and fatter the system can do more.
Like the evolution of windows.

Some people love windows, some people miss the freedom of "not" doing things
the same damn way as "everyone" else.
These system evolute in two ways, one is like I said, better log routines,
bigger log routines, and more log routines.
The other way they evolve is more sinister, they change the need. I see it
all over with other producs and systems.
The need is dumbed down.

Like windows, feature based software wont be feeding the same need as now,
they will dumb down the end products to facilitate the limitation in
software.

I wonder where we would be if there was no windows?

You can keep your feature based crap, Ill stick with full control, a
combination of many things including feature recognition. (in case I have a
circuit
board to drill),
jon_banquer
2013-11-13 19:13:16 UTC
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Post by jon_banquer
Feature based programming blows the doors of Process based CAM programming
for many parts.
In the last two years Delcam has added PowerMill's toolpaths to Featurecam
making it one incredibly powerful program.
With some CAD improvements and some user interface improvements, Featurecam
can easily be the dominant player for machining job shops in the USA. It’s
further along than almost every other CAM product in this regard and
Autodesk marketing can really crank up sales at a much faster rate than
Delcam was.
More details as well as an extended discussion of the Autodesk purchase of
Delcam can be found on the LinkedIn group: CADCAM Technology Leaders.
*******
Feature recognition is as good as its rules relative to the simplicity of
the part.
As the rules get better, more complex, and fatter the system can do more.
Like the evolution of windows.
Some people love windows, some people miss the freedom of "not" doing things
the same damn way as "everyone" else.
These system evolute in two ways, one is like I said, better log routines,
bigger log routines, and more log routines.
The other way they evolve is more sinister, they change the need. I see it
all over with other producs and systems.
The need is dumbed down.
Like windows, feature based software wont be feeding the same need as now,
they will dumb down the end products to facilitate the limitation in
software.
I wonder where we would be if there was no windows?
You can keep your feature based crap, Ill stick with full control, a
combination of many things including feature recognition. (in case I have a
circuit
board to drill),
Just as I suspected you have no idea how Delcam Featurecam works because you have never used it. The best you can do is try and read my posts trying to figure out what Featurecam is and what it does. Even if you had used Featurcam you would not be able to grasp why it's so much better designed than Mastercam is.

You don't have the skill set to properly evaluate any CADCAM program and it shows.

How many members does CADCAM Technology Leaders group on LinkedIn have and who are some of its members? Who is the owner of that group and who started it? Instead of continuing to piss and drool all over yourself and look like a fool suggest you take a good hard look at what others think of my CADCAM knowledge because it's the kind of knowledge you clearly don't have and never will have.

Time to get fired again and find a shop with Mastercam, Vinny. Mastercam is the only CADCAM program you can grasp because it has almost zero automation and what little it does have works extremely poorly. It's only a matter of time before CNC Software has to sell because their growth is gone and they can't compete with the likes of companies like Autodesk/Delcam.
jon_banquer
2013-11-13 22:36:30 UTC
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Most Mastercam users still complain their hands are tied with feature based toolpath programming. A few years ago that was true. It's not true anymore. What is true is that CADCAM users who aren't use to toolpath automation, and who blindly accept that you have to do every little mundane task manually, are much slower at creating CAM programs for many parts.

It takes awhile for new users to come to grips with how toolpath automation works in feature based CAM. Specifically, how to control it, how to set it up properly and how to override it when necessary.
k***@cristinstrument.com
2017-06-27 15:36:15 UTC
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Post by jon_banquer
Most Mastercam users still complain their hands are tied with feature based toolpath programming. A few years ago that was true. It's not true anymore. What is true is that CADCAM users who aren't use to toolpath automation, and who blindly accept that you have to do every little mundane task manually, are much slower at creating CAM programs for many parts.
It takes awhile for new users to come to grips with how toolpath automation works in feature based CAM. Specifically, how to control it, how to set it up properly and how to override it when necessary.
I have been a FeatureCam user for many years. at one point we had someone who worked for me who swore by Mastercam but I could run rings around him both in creating programs and the way they ran. He took college classes on using it so his proficiency was there it's the program. also looked into Bobcadcam and felt it was horribly cumbersome at the time when we looked at it. I will admit that was many years ago though. Recently Autodesk bought FeatureCam and boy have they got it messed up simulations when they work without crashing take forever now. and all kinds of glitches with how it outputs the post. I have to go through now and on every deep hole I have to manually put in the K code. Oh the K is there just no value. and thats not the half of it I sure hope they get it fixed. because I still like the feature based recognition it has. Even though that doesn't seem to work as well as it used to either. Seams it can't find a lot of the features now.
DanP
2013-11-13 21:06:48 UTC
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Post by jon_banquer
Feature based programming blows the doors of Process based CAM programming for many parts.
What? You were saying TopSolid is the best.

Any CAM with a flexible post can do multiple parts, just add macros in the post.


DanP
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