Discussion:
Zionism, The Moral Struggle
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jon_banquer
2015-03-08 19:32:03 UTC
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http://www.israellycool.com/2014/12/15/zionism-the-moral-struggle/

"I find myself writing about things that I think are common sense. I wrote extensively about the indigenous status of the Jewish people, and in a bemused fashion, watched as people tried to deny something that is verified not just in religious texts of every major faith, but through genetics, history, archaeology, and anthropology. I never really concerned myself with the hurt feelings of people who had bought a false narrative, or the feelings of a people who went from being the dominant group who colonised and oppressed the entire region, to being stateless refugees used as pawns by their brethren.

It's amusing to me that something I saw as common sense, was such a groundbreaking argument and is only now coming into the mainstream.

Now I am gonna blow some more minds with my next statement. I am taking back a word that has long been misused by ignorant people. I am proud to call myself a Zionist, and every Zionist should be.

ZIONISM IS AN INDIGENOUS RIGHTS MOVEMENT COMPLETELY BASED ON MORAL AND ETHICAL PRINCIPLES.

The central theme of Zionism is the return of an indigenous people to their ancestral lands, achieving self determination on those lands and then protecting their sacred sites. This is the core of every indigenous rights movement in the world. Indigenous people have been displaced and oppressed all over the world; returning them to their ancestral lands and repatriating their sacred sites is the epitome of a moral and ethical struggle.

ANYONE willing to actually read with an open mind, can easily see this. It was in no way a colonial project. In fact, the British who went from being very pro Zionist in the 1800's, took a turn into asshattery with their abject support of the Arabs and their handicapping of the nascent Jewish state. Their arms embargo was about hamstringing the Jewish ability to defend themselves in the hope that they would lose a war and be destroyed.

Arabs have rights, absolutely. They have rights of longstanding presence. These rights mean they have the right to live in peace with the indigenous people, not the right to force their ways on them. Living somewhere for a long time doesn't give you rights to oppress indigenous people. The Arabs not only need to understand that stealing something doesn't give you the right to keep it in perpetuity; but that morally, they should have willingly assisted the return of the indigenous, and lived in peace, but instead fought it and tried to keep what they stole.

I am Metis. I am proud of that, despite some people trying really hard to make me feel ashamed. I never feel ashamed of being Metis, BECAUSE I KNOW MY CAUSE IS JUST AND MY PEOPLE ARE THE GOOD GUYS. I never feel ashamed to advocate for my people or for other indigenous people, because I know in my heart what I am doing is right. I have no doubts because I have studied this struggle in depth, both in North America and worldwide.

I want young Jewish people to understand this simple truth. YOU ARE THE GOOD GUYS, no matter what the leftists would have you believe. The return of a displaced indigenous people is never a tragedy. The creation of the world's first modern indigenous state is a triumph for all indigenous people. Your country is a lantern in the darkness - Lux lucis Obscurum, is latin for " light from the darkness"; this is Israel, the Middle East's only actual democracy, the only state in the Middle East where human rights are actually respected.

The fact that it's indigenous people lighting the way makes me incredibly proud. The colonialists would have us believe that only they have helped the world move forward, but while they have stagnated, indigenous people move forward.

When you advocate for Israel, you do not need to be apologetic.You do not have to stay defensive; you need only speak the truth. Your country is the only country in the Middle East where women enjoy full equal rights, where gays can live openly as gays, where Jews and Christians can worship god openly as they see fit under no restrictions. Israel has demonstrated that not only does it fight wars in a moral fashion, but that it does so while maintaining a moral high ground that is unassailable. Who else would send food and water to a place that is shooting rockets at them? It cannot be argued that Israel could easily lay waste to the entire PA and Gaza in a day, which means if the Jews wanted to commit a genocide, they easily could. It also cannot be argued that if the palestinians could kill all the Jews, they would not.

Young Jews need to celebrate these things. They should not allow anyone to make them feel that they are "occupiers" or "colonists". They need to learn their history, and their culture, not just their religion. They need to understand that defending your people is a moral and ethical thing, and they need to realize that while they are under a microscope, they also benefit from being members of a nation that has survived three thousand years of pressure and hatred.

You can be proud of who you are, and you should be. You can advocate for your people and your country, and you should. It is the right thing to do. Do so from a place of knowledge and truth, because as a wise football coach once said " Clear eyes full hearts, can't lose." It's worked for Israel so far."
StarDust
2015-03-09 02:41:36 UTC
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Post by jon_banquer
http://www.israellycool.com/2014/12/15/zionism-the-moral-struggle/
"I find myself writing about things that I think are common sense. I wrote extensively about the indigenous status of the Jewish people, and in a bemused fashion, watched as people tried to deny something that is verified not just in religious texts of every major faith, but through genetics, history, archaeology, and anthropology. I never really concerned myself with the hurt feelings of people who had bought a false narrative, or the feelings of a people who went from being the dominant group who colonised and oppressed the entire region, to being stateless refugees used as pawns by their brethren.
It's amusing to me that something I saw as common sense, was such a groundbreaking argument and is only now coming into the mainstream.
Now I am gonna blow some more minds with my next statement. I am taking back a word that has long been misused by ignorant people. I am proud to call myself a Zionist, and every Zionist should be.
ZIONISM IS AN INDIGENOUS RIGHTS MOVEMENT COMPLETELY BASED ON MORAL AND ETHICAL PRINCIPLES.
The central theme of Zionism is the return of an indigenous people to their ancestral lands, achieving self determination on those lands and then protecting their sacred sites. This is the core of every indigenous rights movement in the world. Indigenous people have been displaced and oppressed all over the world; returning them to their ancestral lands and repatriating their sacred sites is the epitome of a moral and ethical struggle.
ANYONE willing to actually read with an open mind, can easily see this. It was in no way a colonial project. In fact, the British who went from being very pro Zionist in the 1800's, took a turn into asshattery with their abject support of the Arabs and their handicapping of the nascent Jewish state. Their arms embargo was about hamstringing the Jewish ability to defend themselves in the hope that they would lose a war and be destroyed.
Arabs have rights, absolutely. They have rights of longstanding presence. These rights mean they have the right to live in peace with the indigenous people, not the right to force their ways on them. Living somewhere for a long time doesn't give you rights to oppress indigenous people. The Arabs not only need to understand that stealing something doesn't give you the right to keep it in perpetuity; but that morally, they should have willingly assisted the return of the indigenous, and lived in peace, but instead fought it and tried to keep what they stole.
I am Metis. I am proud of that, despite some people trying really hard to make me feel ashamed. I never feel ashamed of being Metis, BECAUSE I KNOW MY CAUSE IS JUST AND MY PEOPLE ARE THE GOOD GUYS. I never feel ashamed to advocate for my people or for other indigenous people, because I know in my heart what I am doing is right. I have no doubts because I have studied this struggle in depth, both in North America and worldwide.
I want young Jewish people to understand this simple truth. YOU ARE THE GOOD GUYS, no matter what the leftists would have you believe. The return of a displaced indigenous people is never a tragedy. The creation of the world's first modern indigenous state is a triumph for all indigenous people. Your country is a lantern in the darkness - Lux lucis Obscurum, is latin for " light from the darkness"; this is Israel, the Middle East's only actual democracy, the only state in the Middle East where human rights are actually respected.
The fact that it's indigenous people lighting the way makes me incredibly proud. The colonialists would have us believe that only they have helped the world move forward, but while they have stagnated, indigenous people move forward.
When you advocate for Israel, you do not need to be apologetic.You do not have to stay defensive; you need only speak the truth. Your country is the only country in the Middle East where women enjoy full equal rights, where gays can live openly as gays, where Jews and Christians can worship god openly as they see fit under no restrictions. Israel has demonstrated that not only does it fight wars in a moral fashion, but that it does so while maintaining a moral high ground that is unassailable. Who else would send food and water to a place that is shooting rockets at them? It cannot be argued that Israel could easily lay waste to the entire PA and Gaza in a day, which means if the Jews wanted to commit a genocide, they easily could. It also cannot be argued that if the palestinians could kill all the Jews, they would not.
Young Jews need to celebrate these things. They should not allow anyone to make them feel that they are "occupiers" or "colonists". They need to learn their history, and their culture, not just their religion. They need to understand that defending your people is a moral and ethical thing, and they need to realize that while they are under a microscope, they also benefit from being members of a nation that has survived three thousand years of pressure and hatred.
You can be proud of who you are, and you should be. You can advocate for your people and your country, and you should. It is the right thing to do. Do so from a place of knowledge and truth, because as a wise football coach once said " Clear eyes full hearts, can't lose." It's worked for Israel so far."
Helen Thomas -Israelis have the right to exist-but where they were born.


Jews against Zionism -True Torah Jews

Post by jon_banquer
Zionism is nothing but a disease! Real jews speak here, and speak truthfully! And yet again those who do such "traitorous" acts are hated on, this is okay, for life is not worth anything when you do not fight against what is not good!<<<
jon_banquer
2015-03-09 03:31:16 UTC
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On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 7:41:37 PM UTC-7, Jew hater StarFucker wrote:

<StarFucker Jew hatred snipped>

Hatred of Zionism is the new antisemitism:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_antisemitism
StarDust
2015-03-09 04:08:39 UTC
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Post by jon_banquer
<StarFucker Jew hatred snipped>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_antisemitism
It's not a moral struggle idiot, it's a tempt for global conquest by the Jewish bankster gangsters!
printing money from nothing!

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jon_banquer
2015-03-09 04:28:01 UTC
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On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 9:08:42 PM UTC-7, StarFucker once again displayed his insane hatred for Jews:

<Insane Jew hated snipped>

Nothing to respond to.
StarDust
2015-03-09 05:43:54 UTC
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Post by jon_banquer
<Insane Jew hated snipped>
Nothing to respond to.
Jewish bankster, gangster , scandal!
Too big to fail!
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jon_banquer
2015-03-09 13:48:01 UTC
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On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 10:43:57 PM UTC-7, StarFucker continued to show he's a Jew hater:

<StarFucker Jew hatred snipped>

Nothing to respond to.
Just Me
2015-03-09 15:41:40 UTC
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Something to confuse you... I agree with you that stardust is a fucking idiot.

As for the original post,really Jon?
Just indigenous peoples trying to
reclaim ancestral land,nice twist.

One thing that seems to be overlooked alot is not only do the Jews claim special religious significance to many places but the
spin offs, Christianity and Islam also lay claim to the same sites,
and all of you think your claim is the most important.
Until that stupidity is addressed
nothing will change
jon_banquer
2015-03-09 17:58:24 UTC
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Post by Just Me
Something to confuse you... I agree with you that stardust is a fucking idiot.
As for the original post,really Jon?
Just indigenous peoples trying to
reclaim ancestral land,nice twist.
One thing that seems to be overlooked alot is not only do the Jews claim special religious significance to many places but the
spin offs, Christianity and Islam also lay claim to the same sites,
and all of you think your claim is the most important.
Until that stupidity is addressed
nothing will change
I'm not confused at all but both you and Al Drake are.

StarFucker is only an idiot to you because of his outright hatred of Jews which he doesn't conceal. This is the same hatred for Jews you can't acknowledge in yourself or in Al Drake.
Just Me
2015-03-09 18:39:09 UTC
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I think I'll have to admit an error
in the previous post.
You are the fucking idiot,an ignorant
arrogant ideological bully.
jon_banquer
2015-03-09 19:29:07 UTC
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On Monday, March 9, 2015 at 11:39:11 AM UTC-7, Just Me admitted he's a loser with no clues:

<Snipped the usual "Just Me" anonymous posting pussy nonsense>


Making errors is your forte. You make them over and over and over again, never learning from them. It's a very common trait with worthless Jew hating shitbags like you.
Just Me
2015-03-09 20:23:20 UTC
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Unlike you who never ever makes any
errors.
Do you give lessons in perfection?

You are an angry bully who thinks
he can intimidate people by yelling
antisemite jew hater at everybody that
won't bow down and acknowledge your
superiority.

Well here go Jon, you are the superior
Troll / Idiot on this group and probably most other groups you
troll,including your infamous
LinkedIn one
jon_banquer
2015-03-09 20:36:41 UTC
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On Monday, March 9, 2015 at 1:23:23 PM UTC-7, Anonymous posting pussy "Just Me" tried to cover up the fact that he's a lifelong loser and a Jew hater. As per usual, he failed miserably:

<Anonymous posting pussy bullshit and lies from a Jew hater snipped>

Nothing to respond to.
StarDust
2015-03-10 04:43:35 UTC
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Post by Just Me
Something to confuse you... I agree with you that stardust is a fucking idiot.
As for the original post,really Jon?
Just indigenous peoples trying to
reclaim ancestral land,nice twist.
One thing that seems to be overlooked alot is not only do the Jews claim special religious significance to many places but the
spin offs, Christianity and Islam also lay claim to the same sites,
and all of you think your claim is the most important.
Until that stupidity is addressed
nothing will change
Idiot you, moron!
You can't see the forest for the tree!
jon_banquer
2015-03-10 05:40:59 UTC
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On Monday, March 9, 2015 at 9:43:36 PM UTC-7, StarFucker tried to explain away his rampant Jew hate and failed:

<Rampant Jew hate, snipped.>

Nothing to respond to, bitch.
StarDust
2015-03-10 07:09:14 UTC
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Post by jon_banquer
<Rampant Jew hate, snipped.>
Nothing to respond to, bitch.
Than be quiet and don't post, Yidsky!
jon_banquer
2015-03-10 13:33:34 UTC
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On Tuesday, March 10, 2015 at 12:09:17 AM UTC-7, StarFuck wrote nothing of any value:

<Moronic ramblings of a well known Jew hater snipped>

Don't ever forget that I completely own Jew hating pieces of shit like you and I do with you whatever I please. :>)
Just Me
2015-03-10 15:57:33 UTC
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So,despite the mythology of the exodus,
Jewish "escape" from slavery you
still think owning people is cool.
jon_banquer
2015-03-10 16:10:20 UTC
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Post by Just Me
So,despite the mythology of the exodus,
Jewish "escape" from slavery you
still think owning people is cool.
I find Jew haters like you, StarFucker and Al Drake to be incredibly stupid and easy to control. It requires almost zero effort on my part. :>)
Just Me
2015-03-10 17:07:38 UTC
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You have no control over anything
or anyone.

It's all in your mind you know.
jon_banquer
2015-03-10 17:26:17 UTC
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Post by Just Me
You have no control over anything
or anyone.
It's all in your mind you know.
You have once again proved my point beyond a shadow of a doubt.

Thanks for continuing to play and showing just how much I control you!
Just Me
2015-03-10 17:33:41 UTC
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Black is White huh?

Another slow day at Ministry of Truth I see
jon_banquer
2015-03-10 18:01:21 UTC
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Post by Just Me
Black is White huh?
Another slow day at Ministry of Truth I see
Yet more proof! Keep up the good work. I couldn't be more pleased. :>)
Just Me
2015-03-10 18:23:27 UTC
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I'm so happy you are easily amused.

Research indicates,and you seem to
be willing to validate it, that low
IQ, single digit like you, are the
easiest to entertain,completely
undemanding and delusional.
jon_banquer
2015-03-10 18:30:40 UTC
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On Tuesday, March 10, 2015 at 11:23:29 AM UTC-7, Anonymous posting pussy "Just Me" continued to try and run away from the FACT that he is a Jew hater and failed miserably just like he always does:

<Snipped the delusional ramblings of a Jew hater>

Nothing to respond to.
StarDust
2015-03-10 22:29:19 UTC
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Post by jon_banquer
<Moronic ramblings of a well known Jew hater snipped>
Don't ever forget that I completely own Jew hating pieces of shit like you and I do with you whatever I please. :>)
Jew /w narcissistic personality disorder?
jon_banquer
2015-03-10 23:14:56 UTC
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Post by StarDust
Jew /w narcissistic personality disorder?
Just someone who has kicked your worthless antisemitic ass to the curb for years now.

Sit down and shut up, Fucktard.
StarDust
2015-03-11 00:02:24 UTC
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Post by jon_banquer
Post by StarDust
Jew /w narcissistic personality disorder?
Just someone who has kicked your worthless antisemitic ass to the curb for years now.
Sit down and shut up, Fucktard.
What's Da matter, getting angry?
Your Jewish defective genes kicking in?
jon_banquer
2015-03-11 00:19:30 UTC
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Post by StarDust
Post by jon_banquer
Post by StarDust
Jew /w narcissistic personality disorder?
Just someone who has kicked your worthless antisemitic ass to the curb for years now.
Sit down and shut up, Fucktard.
What's Da matter, getting angry?
Your Jewish defective genes kicking in?
Yes, you are getting angry and it clearly shows.

Most worthless, Jew haters like you are very angry people.

So sad. Too bad. :>)
Al Drake
2015-03-11 20:44:25 UTC
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Post by jon_banquer
Post by StarDust
Post by jon_banquer
Post by StarDust
Jew /w narcissistic personality disorder?
Just someone who has kicked your worthless antisemitic ass to the curb for years now.
Sit down and shut up, Fucktard.
What's Da matter, getting angry?
Your Jewish defective genes kicking in?
Yes, you are getting angry and it clearly shows.
Most worthless, Jew haters like you are very angry people.
So sad. Too bad. :>)
You are the one that gets angry, no one else but you. You address
everyone like you're speaking to your wife and daughter.

You were obviously raised a very hateful angry child and never
matured. No one would bother hating you, you have enough self loathing
to go around. Such a pathetic miserable loser jon.
jon_banquer
2015-03-11 21:02:08 UTC
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On Wednesday, March 11, 2015 at 1:44:27 PM UTC-7, Al Drake lied:

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Nothing to respond to.
Al Drake
2015-03-12 07:03:30 UTC
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Post by jon_banquer
<Al Drake lies snipped.>
Nothing to respond to.
banguer's inability to address the truth restored.
Post by jon_banquer
Post by jon_banquer
Post by StarDust
Jew /w narcissistic personality disorder?
Just someone who has kicked your worthless antisemitic ass to the curb for years now.
Sit down and shut up, Fucktard.
What's Da matter, getting angry?
Your Jewish defective genes kicking in?
Yes, you are getting angry and it clearly shows.
Most worthless, Jew haters like you are very angry people.
So sad. Too bad. :>)
What's sad is your lack of the ability to see what you really are and
how it's you that lies and gets mad. Not others. YOU are the hater here,
not others. You are the one that spends so much time out of your
obviously worthless life to continue to try to get others to believe
what you imagine.

Calling someone a "Fucktard" is proof of you immaturity and lack of
intellect.
You really need to get back to anger management class so you can
confront your psychosis.

Poor little jon, kicks his own arse with every post.
jon_banquer
2015-03-12 14:53:24 UTC
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On Thursday, March 12, 2015 at 12:03:32 AM UTC-7, Al lied:

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Nothing to respond to.
Al Drake
2015-03-12 20:51:52 UTC
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<Al Drake never lies. jon banquer runs away as he gets kicked to the curb yet again>
Nothing to respond to.
<Al Drake has never lied.>
jon bangues cowers and bows as he gets kicked again.
banguer's inability to address the truth restored.
Post by jon_banquer
Post by StarDust
Jew /w narcissistic personality disorder?
Just someone who has kicked your worthless antisemitic ass to the curb for years now.
Sit down and shut up, Fucktard.
What's Da matter, getting angry?
Your Jewish defective genes kicking in?
Yes, you are getting angry and it clearly shows.
Most worthless, Jew haters like you are very angry people.
So sad. Too bad. :>)
What's sad is your lack of the ability to see what you really are and
how it's you that lies and gets mad. Not others. YOU are the hater here,
not others. You are the one that spends so much time out of your
obviously worthless life to continue to try to get others to believe
what you imagine.

Calling someone a "Fucktard" is proof of you immaturity and lack of
intellect.
You really need to get back to anger management class so you can
confront your psychosis.

Poor little jon, kicks his own arse with every post.
jon_banquer
2015-03-12 21:17:14 UTC
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On Thursday, March 12, 2015 at 1:51:56 PM UTC-7, Al Drake lied:

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Nothing to respond to.
Al Drake
2015-03-13 07:18:25 UTC
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Post by jon_banquer
<Al Drake lies snipped>
Nothing to respond to.
You never have anything to begin with so none of us is surprised. Just
your usual hate and psychotic rants about how everyone hate you.

It must really suck to be you and have no job. Those welfare checks
still coming in I hope.
jon_banquer
2015-03-13 15:09:46 UTC
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On Friday, March 13, 2015 at 12:18:28 AM UTC-7, Al Drake lied:

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Nothing to respond to.
Al Drake
2015-03-13 21:21:35 UTC
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On Thursday, March 12, 2015 at 1:51:56 PM UTC-7, Al Drake speaks the
<jon runs away from the truth yet again>
Nothing to respond to.
You never have anything to begin with so none of us is surprised.
Just your usual hate and psychotic rants about how everyone hate you.
It must really suck to be you and have no job. Those welfare checks
still coming in I hope.
jon gets his ass handed to him one more time.
jon_banquer
2015-03-13 21:30:58 UTC
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On Friday, March 13, 2015 at 2:21:39 PM UTC-7, Al Drake lied:

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Nothing to respond to.
Al Drake
2015-03-14 05:02:11 UTC
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Post by jon_banquer
<Al Drake lies snipped>
Nothing to respond to.
It seems you are getting used to being kicked to the curb, hey jon? I
love it when you surrender and whimper away like a beaten wife.

Still unable to provide any proof of any lies that anyone has posted.
It must really make you feel stupid.

We all see you for what you are jon.
jon_banquer
2015-03-14 05:43:47 UTC
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On Friday, March 13, 2015 at 10:02:15 PM UTC-7, Al Drake lied:

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Nothing to respond to.
Al Drake
2015-03-14 08:08:08 UTC
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<Al Drake posts scare jon so he snipped>
Nothing to respond to.
Beaten once again. You must be getting sore.

You are the liar jon, not me. You have never offered proof otherwise.
Not once. You are a sick boy jon.
jon_banquer
2015-03-14 15:17:46 UTC
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On Saturday, March 14, 2015 at 1:08:13 AM UTC-7, Al Drake lied:

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Nothing to respond to.
Al Drake
2015-03-14 22:58:38 UTC
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Post by jon_banquer
<Al Drake lies snipped>
Nothing to respond to.
Get you ass kicked seems to be something you enjoy.
jon_banquer
2015-03-15 02:11:34 UTC
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On Saturday, March 14, 2015 at 3:58:42 PM UTC-7, Al Drake lied:

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Nothing to respond to.
Al Drake
2015-03-15 10:52:31 UTC
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Post by jon_banquer
<Al Drake lies snipped>
Nothing to respond to.
You're a mushroom jon.
jon_banquer
2015-03-15 14:09:48 UTC
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On Sunday, March 15, 2015 at 3:52:32 AM UTC-7, Al Drake lied:

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Nothing to respond to.
Al Drake
2015-03-15 15:20:11 UTC
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Post by jon_banquer
<Al Drake lies snipped>
Nothing to respond to.
Capitulation accepted.
jon_banquer
2015-03-15 15:35:15 UTC
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On Sunday, March 15, 2015 at 8:20:12 AM UTC-7, Al Drake lied:

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Nothing to respond to.
Al Drake
2015-03-15 16:04:13 UTC
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Post by jon_banquer
<Al Drake lies snipped>
Nothing to respond to.
Yes jon, we know. You are a loser.
jon_banquer
2015-03-15 16:07:47 UTC
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On Sunday, March 15, 2015 at 9:04:14 AM UTC-7, Al Drake lied:

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Al Drake
2015-03-15 17:12:51 UTC
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Post by jon_banquer
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Nothing to respond to.
Jon, you are a little boy. You always have to have the last word even
if you do nothing but whine a piss your pants.
The more you post the more of a fool you become.

Good luck with that little one.
jon_banquer
2015-03-15 18:18:54 UTC
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On Sunday, March 15, 2015 at 10:12:53 AM UTC-7, Al Drake lied:

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