Discussion:
Edgecam Workflow 2015 R1
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jon_banquer
2014-12-20 23:21:22 UTC
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I would consider Edgecam Workflow to be a "wrapper" around an old CAM program. I'm very impressed with the job Vero Software has done with Edgecam. I certainly think Edgecam is a lot more efficient to use than say Mastercam, Surfcam, etc. for short run, varied, multiple part, production machining.

Edgecam 2015 R1 now has support for multiple setups in both milling and turning:

https://lnkd.in/bj7hAEx

I'm told Pathtrace fired Dave Boucher who has been with CNC Software (Mastercam) for years now. Vero Software purchased Pathtrace and other CAM companies. Vero Software was then acquired by Hexagon.

To me there is a huge difference in what Edgecam has done with Workflow and what Mastercam has done with their old code.

I think Workflow will eventually become Edgecam.
jon_banquer
2014-12-22 17:58:02 UTC
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Post by jon_banquer
I would consider Edgecam Workflow to be a "wrapper" around an old CAM program. I'm very impressed with the job Vero Software has done with Edgecam. I certainly think Edgecam is a lot more efficient to use than say Mastercam, Surfcam, etc. for short run, varied, multiple part, production machining.
https://lnkd.in/bj7hAEx
I'm told Pathtrace fired Dave Boucher who has been with CNC Software (Mastercam) for years now. Vero Software purchased Pathtrace and other CAM companies. Vero Software was then acquired by Hexagon.
To me there is a huge difference in what Edgecam has done with Workflow and what Mastercam has done with their old code.
I think Workflow will eventually become Edgecam.
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Just Me
2014-12-22 19:27:34 UTC
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Such a loser that he has to answer his own posts.

As you obviously haven't noticed anybody here that
has any interest in your group has probably already
signed up.
The rest of us really don't want second by second
updates how many have signed up,or how many responses
there are to a post.
But being the insecure little bully you I suppose you
will just on spamming.
jon_banquer
2014-12-22 19:44:02 UTC
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On Monday, December 22, 2014 11:27:36 AM UTC-8, Anonymous posting pussy "Just Me" lied:

<Lies snipped.>

Thanks for keeping this thread on top, sucker.
vinny
2014-12-23 10:46:09 UTC
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"jon_banquer" <***@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:8113d822-8991-488c-85b8-***@googlegroups.com...
I would consider Edgecam Workflow to be a "wrapper" around an old CAM
program. I'm very impressed with the job Vero Software has done with
Edgecam. I certainly think Edgecam is a lot more efficient to use than say
Mastercam, Surfcam, etc. for short run, varied, multiple part, production
machining.

Edgecam 2015 R1 now has support for multiple setups in both milling and
turning:

https://lnkd.in/bj7hAEx

I'm told Pathtrace fired Dave Boucher who has been with CNC Software
(Mastercam) for years now. Vero Software purchased Pathtrace and other CAM
companies. Vero Software was then acquired by Hexagon.

To me there is a huge difference in what Edgecam has done with Workflow and
what Mastercam has done with their old code.

I think Workflow will eventually become Edgecam.

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I would suggest mastercam at this point, at least you can count on the
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I'm getting code from guys using unigraphics...jeesh, friggen guys cant even
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jon_banquer
2014-12-23 19:10:19 UTC
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Post by vinny
Sounds like the ideas debacle that made the best cam software ever written
disapear...camax. Than they ate up smartcam also.
I would suggest mastercam at this point, at least you can count on the
product continuing to exist.
CNC Software's former head of software engineering is an active member of my LinkedIn group. He worked for CNC Software for 8 years banging his head against the wall trying to get things done right and got no support from owner Mark Summers who wants to keep patching Mastercam forever.

Do you think there is any chance that I now might have conformation on just how bad the problems are in Mastercam that you clearly don't? Frankly, you have no clue how bad things are with Mastercam and why most long standing issues Mastercam has will never get better until Mastercam is completely rewritten from the ground up.

Lets take this example where you will make some bullshit excuse for what's going and blame the user because you don't understand the real problems with Mastercam like I do:

http://www.emastercam.com/board/topic/79673-problems-with-x8/

"I've noticed lots of the little quirky bugs that are hard to replicate repeatedly are solved by closing and restarting MC. Every hour I close it down and restart it, it's been less buggy since I've started doing this."

You're a CADCAM idiot, Vinny. You have no real understanding of Mastercam and why it's so fucked up. I do. I've said it for many years and I've been right on everything I've said. So right, that I now have inside confirmation from developers who work/worked for CNC Software.
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2014-12-23 22:37:58 UTC
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2014-12-23 22:38:44 UTC
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vinny
2014-12-24 01:23:43 UTC
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Post by vinny
Sounds like the ideas debacle that made the best cam software ever written
disapear...camax. Than they ate up smartcam also.
I would suggest mastercam at this point, at least you can count on the
product continuing to exist.
CNC Software's former head of software engineering is an active member of my
LinkedIn group. He worked for CNC Software for 8 years banging his head
against the wall trying to get things done right and got no support from
owner Mark Summers who wants to keep patching Mastercam forever.

Do you think there is any chance that I now might have conformation on just
how bad the problems are in Mastercam that you clearly don't? Frankly, you
have no clue how bad things are with Mastercam and why most long standing
issues Mastercam has will never get better until Mastercam is completely
rewritten from the ground up.

Lets take this example where you will make some bullshit excuse for what's
going and blame the user because you don't understand the real problems with
Mastercam like I do:

http://www.emastercam.com/board/topic/79673-problems-with-x8/

"I've noticed lots of the little quirky bugs that are hard to replicate
repeatedly are solved by closing and restarting MC. Every hour I close it
down and restart it, it's been less buggy since I've started doing this."

You're a CADCAM idiot, Vinny. You have no real understanding of Mastercam
and why it's so fucked up. I do. I've said it for many years and I've been
right on everything I've said. So right, that I now have inside confirmation
from developers who work/worked for CNC Software.


*******
fu missy.
I ran version 1.51 of smartcam 3d. I ran version 1 of esprit. I think I even
ran version 1 of bobwire.
In fact I used smartcam mill version 1 to program a sodic wire while the
berlin wall was still standing.
As far as mastercam goes, I used it to hardcut on mills and lathes, as well
as softmill. I even used it to wire edm.
I used it thru version 4 to x5.
I made moldbases with it, I programmed weldments with it. I made
electrodes...hardcutting, pre heat treat etc... Frig I even machined
guns...hubcaps, etc...
In the end I "enjoyed" some sweet hardcutting routines.
I LOVE MASTERCAM!

As far as your reboot issue, you HAVE A SHITT GRAPHICS CARD! A friggen amd
chip...piss amount of ram, and a system setup on a friggen "hard drive".
GOOD LORD!
Damn man, I bet you still use a page file and core parking.

You dont deserve mastercam.
You deserve DrillPro on windows millenium.

Oh yah, so he got sent packing...so what. We will see what happens, better
or worse.
Personally, i like the incrimental improvements, as opposed to idiots
reinvnting their product.

coke,windows,budweiser.
jon_banquer
2014-12-24 01:43:37 UTC
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Post by jon_banquer
Post by vinny
Sounds like the ideas debacle that made the best cam software ever written
disapear...camax. Than they ate up smartcam also.
I would suggest mastercam at this point, at least you can count on the
product continuing to exist.
CNC Software's former head of software engineering is an active member of my
LinkedIn group. He worked for CNC Software for 8 years banging his head
against the wall trying to get things done right and got no support from
owner Mark Summers who wants to keep patching Mastercam forever.
Do you think there is any chance that I now might have conformation on just
how bad the problems are in Mastercam that you clearly don't? Frankly, you
have no clue how bad things are with Mastercam and why most long standing
issues Mastercam has will never get better until Mastercam is completely
rewritten from the ground up.
Lets take this example where you will make some bullshit excuse for what's
going and blame the user because you don't understand the real problems with
http://www.emastercam.com/board/topic/79673-problems-with-x8/
"I've noticed lots of the little quirky bugs that are hard to replicate
repeatedly are solved by closing and restarting MC. Every hour I close it
down and restart it, it's been less buggy since I've started doing this."
You're a CADCAM idiot, Vinny. You have no real understanding of Mastercam
and why it's so fucked up. I do. I've said it for many years and I've been
right on everything I've said. So right, that I now have inside confirmation
from developers who work/worked for CNC Software.
*******
fu missy.
I ran version 1.51 of smartcam 3d. I ran version 1 of esprit. I think I even
ran version 1 of bobwire.
In fact I used smartcam mill version 1 to program a sodic wire while the
berlin wall was still standing.
As far as mastercam goes, I used it to hardcut on mills and lathes, as well
as softmill. I even used it to wire edm.
I used it thru version 4 to x5.
I made moldbases with it, I programmed weldments with it. I made
electrodes...hardcutting, pre heat treat etc... Frig I even machined
guns...hubcaps, etc...
In the end I "enjoyed" some sweet hardcutting routines.
I LOVE MASTERCAM!
As far as your reboot issue, you HAVE A SHITT GRAPHICS CARD! A friggen amd
chip...piss amount of ram, and a system setup on a friggen "hard drive".
GOOD LORD!
Damn man, I bet you still use a page file and core parking.
You dont deserve mastercam.
You deserve DrillPro on windows millenium.
Oh yah, so he got sent packing...so what. We will see what happens, better
or worse.
Personally, i like the incrimental improvements, as opposed to idiots
reinvnting their product.
coke,windows,budweiser.
So you know more about what's wrong with Mastercam than the former head of software engineering for CNC software... you're a brain dead idiot with no clues.
Just Me
2014-12-24 04:00:32 UTC
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Post by jon_banquer
Post by jon_banquer
Post by vinny
Sounds like the ideas debacle that made the best cam software ever written
disapear...camax. Than they ate up smartcam also.
I would suggest mastercam at this point, at least you can count on the
product continuing to exist.
CNC Software's former head of software engineering is an active member of my
LinkedIn group. He worked for CNC Software for 8 years banging his head
against the wall trying to get things done right and got no support from
owner Mark Summers who wants to keep patching Mastercam forever.
Do you think there is any chance that I now might have conformation on just
how bad the problems are in Mastercam that you clearly don't? Frankly, you
have no clue how bad things are with Mastercam and why most long standing
issues Mastercam has will never get better until Mastercam is completely
rewritten from the ground up.
Lets take this example where you will make some bullshit excuse for what's
going and blame the user because you don't understand the real problems with
http://www.emastercam.com/board/topic/79673-problems-with-x8/
"I've noticed lots of the little quirky bugs that are hard to replicate
repeatedly are solved by closing and restarting MC. Every hour I close it
down and restart it, it's been less buggy since I've started doing this."
You're a CADCAM idiot, Vinny. You have no real understanding of Mastercam
and why it's so fucked up. I do. I've said it for many years and I've been
right on everything I've said. So right, that I now have inside confirmation
from developers who work/worked for CNC Software.
*******
fu missy.
I ran version 1.51 of smartcam 3d. I ran version 1 of esprit. I think I even
ran version 1 of bobwire.
In fact I used smartcam mill version 1 to program a sodic wire while the
berlin wall was still standing.
As far as mastercam goes, I used it to hardcut on mills and lathes, as well
as softmill. I even used it to wire edm.
I used it thru version 4 to x5.
I made moldbases with it, I programmed weldments with it. I made
electrodes...hardcutting, pre heat treat etc... Frig I even machined
guns...hubcaps, etc...
In the end I "enjoyed" some sweet hardcutting routines.
I LOVE MASTERCAM!
As far as your reboot issue, you HAVE A SHITT GRAPHICS CARD! A friggen amd
chip...piss amount of ram, and a system setup on a friggen "hard drive".
GOOD LORD!
Damn man, I bet you still use a page file and core parking.
You dont deserve mastercam.
You deserve DrillPro on windows millenium.
Oh yah, so he got sent packing...so what. We will see what happens, better
or worse.
Personally, i like the incrimental improvements, as opposed to idiots
reinvnting their product.
coke,windows,budweiser.
So you know more about what's wrong with Mastercam than the former head of software engineering for CNC software... you're a brain dead idiot with no clues.
but you are missing one very important point here Jonny boi, vinny knows how
to actually use Mastercam where as you don't.

Maybe if you could actually program parts in mc your rants would have some validity
jon_banquer
2014-12-24 04:40:49 UTC
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On Tuesday, December 23, 2014 8:00:34 PM UTC-8, Just Me showed why he has no choice other than to post anonymously:

<The usual "Just Me" lies snipped>

I have years and years of getting it right on Mastercam from first hand personal experience using it. That includes two years of using Mastercam at Qualcomm's prototype machine shop everyday:

http://s636.photobucket.com/user/jonbanquer/library/?sort=3&page=1

In addition, my Why Mastercam Is The Wrong Choice blog is still the most well read independent blog on Mastercam in existence even though I no longer bother to update it.

http://whymastercamisthewrongchoice.blogspot.com/

The reason "Just Me" has to post anonymously is that he's a serial liar with no clues. "Just me" has never contributed anything of substance to this newsgroup other than the very basics on CNC machining and CADCAM.
d***@gmail.com
2014-12-24 15:05:28 UTC
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Just Me
2014-12-24 23:10:15 UTC
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Post by jon_banquer
<The usual "Just Me" lies snipped>
2 years huh,obviously all it takes to be a selfprofessed expert!
Post by jon_banquer
http://s636.photobucket.com/user/jonbanquer/library/?sort=3&page=1
A bunch of screen caps of what looks suspiciously like included demo/practice files,proves absolutely nothing.
Post by jon_banquer
In addition, my Why Mastercam Is The Wrong Choice blog is still the most well read independent blog on Mastercam in existence even though I no longer bother to update it.
http://whymastercamisthewrongchoice.blogspot.com/
I read your "most well read independant blog",and it says absolutely nothing.
Mainly just opinion,mostly your opinion,with a few from people who agree with you.
Rants about how things "should" be done,rants about MC not instantly recoding
everything to "maximize" multi core processors,etc.etc

Not a single viable suggestion about how to fix/improve a single function.
It's real easy to start a blog and get a lot of like minded people on it,even
people who work or used to work at MC.

It's not so easy to actual have the abilty to actually solve the problems,
real and imagined. By imagined I mean your own lack of ability.

It's just your inflated self important ego at work.
Post by jon_banquer
The reason "Just Me" has to post anonymously is that he's a serial liar with no clues. "Just me" has never contributed anything of substance to this newsgroup other than the very basics on CNC machining and CADCAM.
Merry Christmas Jon
jon_banquer
2014-12-24 23:29:44 UTC
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On Wednesday, December 24, 2014 3:10:17 PM UTC-8, Just Me once again showed why he's a brain dead idiot with no clues about CADCAM:

<Moronic ramblings of a CADCAM idiot still using an old version of Surfcam snipped>

Nothing to respond to.
vinny
2014-12-25 12:04:34 UTC
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Post by jon_banquer
On Wednesday, December 24, 2014 3:10:17 PM UTC-8, Just Me once again
<Moronic ramblings of a CADCAM idiot still using an old version of Surfcam snipped>
Nothing to respond to.
Merry Christmas jb.
jon_banquer
2014-12-25 18:46:47 UTC
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Post by vinny
Post by jon_banquer
On Wednesday, December 24, 2014 3:10:17 PM UTC-8, Just Me once again
<Moronic ramblings of a CADCAM idiot still using an old version of Surfcam snipped>
Nothing to respond to.
Merry Christmas jb.
Hope you have a nice holiday as well.
jon_banquer
2015-01-24 02:25:27 UTC
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Post by jon_banquer
I would consider Edgecam Workflow to be a "wrapper" around an old CAM program. I'm very impressed with the job Vero Software has done with Edgecam. I certainly think Edgecam is a lot more efficient to use than say Mastercam, Surfcam, etc. for short run, varied, multiple part, production machining.
https://lnkd.in/bj7hAEx
I'm told Pathtrace fired Dave Boucher who has been with CNC Software (Mastercam) for years now. Vero Software purchased Pathtrace and other CAM companies. Vero Software was then acquired by Hexagon.
To me there is a huge difference in what Edgecam has done with Workflow and what Mastercam has done with their old code.
I think Workflow will eventually become Edgecam.
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