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Defeat for Obama on trade as Democrats vote against him
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jon_banquer
2015-06-12 19:16:51 UTC
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http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/jun/12/obama-trade-deals-congress-trans-pacific-partnership
Al Drake
2015-06-12 20:51:34 UTC
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Post by jon_banquer
http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/jun/12/obama-trade-deals-congress-trans-pacific-partnership
Jon, no one even cares about Obama any more. He's old news. We're
moving on to the next chapter. Either Bernie or Hilary while we all sit
back and laugh at watch the shattered Republicans sink even lower.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/12/jon-stewart-donald-rumsfeld_n_7567418.html

:)

Donald Rumsfeld now claims fashioning a democracy in Iraq seemed
"unrealistic" to him from the beginning, something Jon Stewart said
should be filed under “comments that would have been useful earlier" on
Thursday night's "Daily Show."

As Stewart pointed out, Rumsfeld's earlier comments were the complete
opposite.

"There are doubters, and those who say it can't be done," Rumsfeld said
in a 2004 clip. "There have always been doubters who have said it
couldn't be done."

Stewart attempted to complete Rumsfeld's 11-year-old speech:

"And one of those doubters will be me retrospectively, 11 years after
the invasion, I sought and worked tirelessly to make happen, so my point
is I was right all along."

Stewart has said he regrets not being harder on Rumsfeld in a 2011
interview. And while he may not have another chance to grill the former
defense secretary, he used Thursday's show to point out how Rumsfeld was
not only wrong ... but has also been remarkably inconsistent.

It was a segment he called "Learning Curves Are For Pussies."


:)
jon_banquer
2015-06-12 21:01:21 UTC
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On Friday, June 12, 2015 at 1:51:40 PM UTC-7, Al Drake failed:
Al Drake
2015-06-12 22:47:01 UTC
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Jon, you completely and totally retarded. It's been obvious by now to
everyone that you are a recluse detached from reality and absolutely
unable to communicate.

We all feel very sorry for such a helpless fool like you.
jon_banquer
2015-06-12 22:56:12 UTC
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On Friday, June 12, 2015 at 3:47:06 PM UTC-7, Al Drake lied:
sittingduck
2015-06-12 23:34:16 UTC
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Post by Al Drake
Jon, you completely and totally retarded. It's been obvious by now to
everyone that you are a recluse detached from reality and absolutely
unable to communicate.
And how long until you learn that? Why are you still responding to him?
--
Ignorance is when you buy into myth unwittingly. Stupidity is when you refuse
to accept evidence of the myth. There is a cure for ignorance but here is no
cure for stupidity. So which are you, ignorant or stupid?
jon_banquer
2015-06-13 00:05:34 UTC
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Post by sittingduck
Post by Al Drake
Jon, you completely and totally retarded. It's been obvious by now to
everyone that you are a recluse detached from reality and absolutely
unable to communicate.
And how long until you learn that? Why are you still responding to him?
--
Ignorance is when you buy into myth unwittingly. Stupidity is when you refuse
to accept evidence of the myth. There is a cure for ignorance but here is no
cure for stupidity. So which are you, ignorant or stupid?
Same reason you feel the need to comment.

Did this help?
Al Drake
2015-06-13 00:16:53 UTC
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Post by sittingduck
Post by Al Drake
Jon, you completely and totally retarded. It's been obvious by now to
everyone that you are a recluse detached from reality and absolutely
unable to communicate.
And how long until you learn that? Why are you still responding to him?
Like I said. I feel sorry for this freak. I keep trying to have a
normal conversation with jon but he seems to lack the ability to show
signs of any intellect what-so-ever.
jon_banquer
2015-06-13 00:20:10 UTC
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On Friday, June 12, 2015 at 5:16:58 PM UTC-7, Al Drake lied:
DanP
2015-06-13 20:30:44 UTC
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Bullshit, if you felt sorry you would avoid putting him in the spotlight. You do all this because you get your kicks, show how superior you are compared to a retard.
I'd say you are but just by a tiny margin.

DanP
Al Drake
2015-06-14 07:43:26 UTC
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Post by DanP
Bullshit, if you felt sorry you would avoid putting him in the spotlight. You do all this because you get your kicks, show how superior you are compared to a retard.
I'd say you are but just by a tiny margin.
DanP
He puts himself in the "spotlight" and enjoys every minute of it like
any troll. You're not all that bright, are you?
jon_banquer
2015-06-14 17:04:32 UTC
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On Sunday, June 14, 2015 at 12:43:35 AM UTC-7, Al Drake lied:
DanP
2015-06-24 19:17:59 UTC
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Post by Al Drake
Post by DanP
Bullshit, if you felt sorry you would avoid putting him in the spotlight. You do all this because you get your kicks, show how superior you are compared to a retard.
I'd say you are but just by a tiny margin.
DanP
He puts himself in the "spotlight" and enjoys every minute of it like
any troll. You're not all that bright, are you?
I disagree but let's say you are right. You are holding that spotlight and that troll caught you.
And you are feeding him. Well fuck you for that.

DanP

Gunner Asch
2015-06-13 09:50:46 UTC
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Post by Al Drake
. Either Bernie or Hilary while we all sit
back and laugh at watch the shattered Republicans sink even lower.
Saved for January 2017..just to remember to see Alien Ducks head
explode.

<VBG>
Al Drake
2015-06-13 10:13:26 UTC
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Post by Gunner Asch
Post by Al Drake
. Either Bernie or Hilary while we all sit
back and laugh at watch the shattered Republicans sink even lower.
Saved for January 2017..just to remember to see Alien Ducks head
explode.
<VBG>
Ok, so who do you think on the right has a chance and why? They had
their chance and brought this country to the brink and look where we are
now. It's going to be a long time before we'll see a republican
president in the Oval office. Look at you fools the last few times.
Sarah Palin as VP backing up "Bomb Iran" McCain? Mitt "I won't show you
my tax returns" Romney? Your crowd sure was fun to watch.

Then all the outright liars like Rumsfeld. You must be real proud of
him. Go ahead, make some statements if you have the balls and any
intelligence at all or are you like JB? Nothing but emptiness.

Crickets.....................
Gunner Asch
2015-06-13 23:30:53 UTC
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Post by Gunner Asch
Saved for January 2017..just to remember to see Alien Ducks head
explode.
<VBG>
Ok, so who do you think on the LEFT has a chance and why? They had
their chance and brought this country to the brink
Corrected for accuracy.
Al Drake
2015-06-14 07:45:25 UTC
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Post by Gunner Asch
Post by Gunner Asch
Saved for January 2017..just to remember to see Alien Ducks head
explode.
<VBG>
Ok, so who do you think on the LEFT has a chance and why? They had
their chance and brought this country to the brink
Corrected for accuracy.
I already answered this question. Bernie or Hilary. Now answer the real
question, You'll come up empty like always.
Gunner Asch
2015-06-14 16:26:12 UTC
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Post by Al Drake
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by Gunner Asch
Saved for January 2017..just to remember to see Alien Ducks head
explode.
<VBG>
Ok, so who do you think on the LEFT has a chance and why? They had
their chance and brought this country to the brink
Corrected for accuracy.
I already answered this question. Bernie or Hilary. Now answer the real
question, You'll come up empty like always.
Answered "this question"? No..you gave us some wild eyed fantasy
spew spew that has zero connection with reality. Leftists make up
about 28% of the voters. Period. That leaves 72% who are
conservative. Your butt buddy Obama won the first time because of
"hope and change" and the fact he was black..folks gave him the
chance. He won the second time because of wide spread voter fraud
because the People had discovered it was a failed experiement. You
will notice that Congress now has a HUGE conservative majority...the
last election was record breaking. And you think Saunders or the
Hildabeast has a chance with the voters? Snerk!!

The next president will be a Republican. The only question is...which
one...nothing more.

But hey...believe as you choose...its not hair off my ass. if your
fantasy world is blown to smoking ribbons. In fact..I believe I will
enjoy watching your antics afterwards. In fact..Ill send you a brand
new razorblade so you have the option of slitting your wrists election
night and ending all your angst.

Gunner
Al Drake
2015-06-14 19:06:34 UTC
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Post by Gunner Asch
Post by Al Drake
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by Gunner Asch
Saved for January 2017..just to remember to see Alien Ducks head
explode.
<VBG>
Ok, so who do you think on the LEFT has a chance and why? They had
their chance and brought this country to the brink
Corrected for accuracy.
I already answered this question. Bernie or Hilary. Now answer the real
question, You'll come up empty like always.
Answered "this question"? No..you gave us some wild eyed fantasy
spew spew that has zero connection with reality. Leftists make up
about 28% of the voters. Period. That leaves 72% who are
conservative. Your butt buddy Obama won the first time because of
"hope and change" and the fact he was black..folks gave him the
chance. He won the second time because of wide spread voter fraud
because the People had discovered it was a failed experiement. You
will notice that Congress now has a HUGE conservative majority...the
last election was record breaking. And you think Saunders or the
Hildabeast has a chance with the voters? Snerk!!
The next president will be a Republican. The only question is...which
one...nothing more.
But hey...believe as you choose...its not hair off my ass. if your
fantasy world is blown to smoking ribbons. In fact..I believe I will
enjoy watching your antics afterwards. In fact..Ill send you a brand
new razorblade so you have the option of slitting your wrists election
night and ending all your angst.
Gunner
It will be a long time before a republican wins the leadership of
America. It was fun to watch them eat themselves alive and will be just
as fun to see it happen again. The first thing they have to do it admit
Bush was wrong, lied and caused the creation of ISIS. Until then none of
them has a chance. Plain and simple.
Gunner Asch
2015-06-14 19:31:53 UTC
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Post by Al Drake
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by Al Drake
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by Gunner Asch
Saved for January 2017..just to remember to see Alien Ducks head
explode.
<VBG>
Ok, so who do you think on the LEFT has a chance and why? They had
their chance and brought this country to the brink
Corrected for accuracy.
I already answered this question. Bernie or Hilary. Now answer the real
question, You'll come up empty like always.
Answered "this question"? No..you gave us some wild eyed fantasy
spew spew that has zero connection with reality. Leftists make up
about 28% of the voters. Period. That leaves 72% who are
conservative. Your butt buddy Obama won the first time because of
"hope and change" and the fact he was black..folks gave him the
chance. He won the second time because of wide spread voter fraud
because the People had discovered it was a failed experiement. You
will notice that Congress now has a HUGE conservative majority...the
last election was record breaking. And you think Saunders or the
Hildabeast has a chance with the voters? Snerk!!
The next president will be a Republican. The only question is...which
one...nothing more.
But hey...believe as you choose...its not hair off my ass. if your
fantasy world is blown to smoking ribbons. In fact..I believe I will
enjoy watching your antics afterwards. In fact..Ill send you a brand
new razorblade so you have the option of slitting your wrists election
night and ending all your angst.
Gunner
It will be a long time before a republican wins the leadership of
America. It was fun to watch them eat themselves alive and will be just
as fun to see it happen again. The first thing they have to do it admit
Bush was wrong, lied and caused the creation of ISIS. Until then none of
them has a chance. Plain and simple.
As I recall..you said that the Republicans would never regain control
of Congress ...just before the last election.

Yet a record breaking majority proved you to be a nutter.

<VBG>

Gunner
Al Drake
2015-06-14 21:35:59 UTC
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Post by Gunner Asch
Post by Al Drake
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by Al Drake
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by Gunner Asch
Saved for January 2017..just to remember to see Alien Ducks head
explode.
<VBG>
Ok, so who do you think on the LEFT has a chance and why? They had
their chance and brought this country to the brink
Corrected for accuracy.
I already answered this question. Bernie or Hilary. Now answer the real
question, You'll come up empty like always.
Answered "this question"? No..you gave us some wild eyed fantasy
spew spew that has zero connection with reality. Leftists make up
about 28% of the voters. Period. That leaves 72% who are
conservative. Your butt buddy Obama won the first time because of
"hope and change" and the fact he was black..folks gave him the
chance. He won the second time because of wide spread voter fraud
because the People had discovered it was a failed experiement. You
will notice that Congress now has a HUGE conservative majority...the
last election was record breaking. And you think Saunders or the
Hildabeast has a chance with the voters? Snerk!!
The next president will be a Republican. The only question is...which
one...nothing more.
But hey...believe as you choose...its not hair off my ass. if your
fantasy world is blown to smoking ribbons. In fact..I believe I will
enjoy watching your antics afterwards. In fact..Ill send you a brand
new razorblade so you have the option of slitting your wrists election
night and ending all your angst.
Gunner
It will be a long time before a republican wins the leadership of
America. It was fun to watch them eat themselves alive and will be just
as fun to see it happen again. The first thing they have to do it admit
Bush was wrong, lied and caused the creation of ISIS. Until then none of
them has a chance. Plain and simple.
As I recall..you said that the Republicans would never regain control
of Congress ...just before the last election.
Yet a record breaking majority proved you to be a nutter.
<VBG>
Gunner
You don't remember anything as I never said that. What I'm saying now
is it will be a long time before a republican will be elected into the
white house. Maybe you can provide a link to back your claims of what I
posted fool.

We've all seen what a whack job you are.
F. George McDuffee
2015-06-14 16:04:02 UTC
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On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 16:30:53 -0700, Gunner Asch
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by Gunner Asch
Saved for January 2017..just to remember to see Alien Ducks head
explode.
<VBG>
Ok, so who do you think on the LEFT has a chance and why? They had
their chance and brought this country to the brink
Corrected for accuracy.
==========================

IMNSHO the problem is that neither of the red and blue sock
puppets [AKA left and right] are now relevant to running an
effective government, and in fact neither can define what
such a government should do/be from the viewpoint of the
large majority of U. S. citizens. [Lots of assumptions, and
"I know what's best for you."]

Both are living in the past,and both are in deep denial of
the rapidly changing current geopolitical and socioeconomic
situations.

If this only effected the senile political parties and their
members it would be of minimal importance, on about the same
level as Radio Shack, JC Penny or K-Mart/Sears. Most
unfortunately, for not only the citizens of the U. S. but
the world, this irrelevance and denial has the potential
[and probability] of promoting/triggering catastrophes and
disasters such as WW3 [Ukraine, MidEast, South China Sea]
and/or a new and improved "Great Depression."

As a force in government, both the Democratic and Republican
parties are bankrupt. Bankrupt ethically, Bankrupt
intellectually. Bankrupt ideologically [empty slogans,
archaic concepts]. They do however agree on one point -
namely that the American Commonwealth was created and exists
only for their backers to loot.

Unless we want to wind up as a bigger and better version of
Argentina, Greece and Spain, it is critical that a new
continual political movement [not a biennial or quadrennial
personality cult party] be created which is not only data
driven, but has the long-term best self interests of the
majority of the U. S. citizens as its first priority.

Other critical items for the new movement include:

* Creation, or joining an existing clearinghouse/database of
corporate ruses/ploys/scams, their DI/ED [direct investment
/ economic development] performance v promise#, and their
tax avoidance/evasion techniques, with other comparable
national movements/parties;
# examples
http://tinyurl.com/le5gjqn
http://tinyurl.com/pvu7vu4
http://tinyurl.com/lfyxkg5

* Sharing strategy and tactics successful in advancing the
majority interest in elections and plebiscites such as bond
approvals or Constitutional changes.

* Sharing strategy, tactics, and methodology in outreach
including areas such as political awareness education,
history, general education [G.E.D. tutoring?, ESL?], general
interest classes such as cooking and minor home repair,
citizens rights and responsibilities, etc. One of the major
benefits of such programs is the familiarization of the
groups involved with each other to prevent the increasingly
common use of wedge issues to "divide and rule," which puts
self-government at serious risk.

* Maximum interchange of information about devisive
propaganda campaigns, both governmental and private,
attempting to incite the citizens of one country against
another country, the themes/methods used, to the extent
possible the agencies/corporations/individuals accountable,
and possible motives [such as diverting attention from their
own failures/mistakes]. Examples include Germans v Greeks
and Latinos v WASPs.
--
Unka' George

"Gold is the money of kings,
silver is the money of gentlemen,
barter is the money of peasants,
but debt is the money of slaves"

-Norm Franz, "Money and Wealth in the New Millenium"
Al Drake
2015-06-13 15:58:45 UTC
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Post by Gunner Asch
Post by Al Drake
. Either Bernie or Hilary while we all sit
back and laugh at watch the shattered Republicans sink even lower.
Saved for January 2017..just to remember to see Alien Ducks head
explode.
<VBG>
I see you have nothing like every republican I have encountered
lately. I'm not surprised at either you or jon. Neither of you has
learned to form words into sentences that indicate facts.

Now run along and hide behind your ignorance like the troll you have
always have been.

:)

Otherwise I'm waiting.

Put you facts right here:.............................................
Gunner Asch
2015-06-13 23:31:33 UTC
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Post by Al Drake
I see you have nothing like every republican I have encountered
lately.
Im a registered Democrat.

Gunner
Al Drake
2015-06-14 07:46:28 UTC
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Post by Gunner Asch
Post by Al Drake
I see you have nothing like every republican I have encountered
lately.
Im a registered Democrat.
Gunner
And a certified nut. Now answer the question.
Gunner Asch
2015-06-14 16:27:48 UTC
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Post by Al Drake
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by Al Drake
I see you have nothing like every republican I have encountered
lately.
Im a registered Democrat.
Gunner
And a certified nut. Now answer the question.
Which question are you referring to, Duck?
Al Drake
2015-06-14 19:09:22 UTC
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Post by Gunner Asch
Post by Al Drake
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by Al Drake
I see you have nothing like every republican I have encountered
lately.
Im a registered Democrat.
Gunner
And a certified nut. Now answer the question.
Which question are you referring to, Duck?
Short term memory lose? Not a surprise. Try to keep up.
Gunner Asch
2015-06-14 19:35:14 UTC
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Post by Al Drake
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by Al Drake
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by Al Drake
I see you have nothing like every republican I have encountered
lately.
Im a registered Democrat.
Gunner
And a certified nut. Now answer the question.
Which question are you referring to, Duck?
Short term memory lose? Not a surprise. Try to keep up.
So you dont remember?

Not a problem. Ill put you back into the kill file now that Ive had
fun playing with you and showing how much of a nutball you are. I
changed to Agent 8.0 a month or so ago and Ive been slowly putting all
you dirt bags into the bozo bin, as I run across your lot.

Dont call us, we (wont) call you.

Sure you dont want me to send you a nice new really sharp razor blade,
that you can hang onto until that pesky Jan '17 inauguration? Id be
more than happy to do so.

<VBG>

(plink)

Gunner
Al Drake
2015-06-14 21:50:30 UTC
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Post by Gunner Asch
Post by Al Drake
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by Al Drake
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by Al Drake
I see you have nothing like every republican I have encountered
lately.
Im a registered Democrat.
Gunner
And a certified nut. Now answer the question.
Which question are you referring to, Duck?
Short term memory lose? Not a surprise. Try to keep up.
So you dont remember?
Not a problem. Ill put you back into the kill file now that Ive had
fun playing with you and showing how much of a nutball you are. I
changed to Agent 8.0 a month or so ago and Ive been slowly putting all
you dirt bags into the bozo bin, as I run across your lot.
Dont call us, we (wont) call you.
Sure you dont want me to send you a nice new really sharp razor blade,
that you can hang onto until that pesky Jan '17 inauguration? Id be
more than happy to do so.
<VBG>
(plink)
Gunner
:) Once again the coward runs. Same old gunner.
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